Questions and Answers   

Bro. Lee Vayle   -     February 16, 1983

	Heavenly Father we thank You again for your kindness to us, and that
has been manifest in this last hour.  Unto the praise and the glory of
Thy grace, Lord, for herein, we know that You have loved us as we should
have never known previously.  Because, this was that hour when surely
the grim reaper would have reaped the earth, but, his hand has been held
until Elijah came and was able to turn the hearts back to the fathers. 
We perhaps don’t understand every single thing about this, but, we
believe it, Lord.  This has been accomplished, and we are grateful for
it.   It has been accomplished unto us, and for us, and in us.  And, we
therefore, Lord, established in Thee, and not in ourselves, or anything
else, but, in Thy goodness.  

 	We praise You tonight Lord, we ask You to bless us in what we study in
and of Your Word.  May it be a help to us Oh God, and in Jesus name we
pray.  Amen.  You may be seated.  

	But now, we said tonight same as last Wednesday that we can continue
looking at Scripture according to what your questions are, and some of
your thoughts are. And I'm very glad to do that. If I can be of any
help, I don't that I can, but then we just never know.

	So, we'll just put the meeting open for your various thoughts, or
questions that you have. And who's going to be the first one?  Okay:

1.	[Question one:]

		“In 1 Thessalonians there, when the Lord descended with a shout. 
You said He descended with a shout, a voice and a trump, but, you
didn’t build a whole lot into that, that I can remember….”  

	No, you mean, as to take them by Scripture.  No, no, I never took too
much by Scripture, but let's go to 1 Thessalonians 4: and we'll look at
this.

		(13) 	But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning 		
			them which are asleep, (so, you've got two groups living and dead, 		
			the living) …sorrow not, as others which have no hope. (That's in 	
				over in its expectation.)

	If you don't expect anything, you get nothing. Or, you get something
that you weren't expecting that's worse. So, you know that you're going
to get something. All right:

		(14) 	…if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
also which 					sleep in Jesus will God bring (forth).

	The literal rendition is, "bring forth with Him." And my understanding
there is, that God is going to perform a resurrection upon the people as
He performed upon Jesus as He did when He brought the dead out of the
graves in Jerusalem. Now, that's my understanding what he's saying
there. And then he said:

		(15) 	For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, (and this
preaching, 					something like Bro. Branham's 'Thus saith the Lord'.)
that we which 					are alive and remain unto the (Presence, that's the
actual Coming and 					remaining) of the Lord shall not prevent… 

	Bro. Branham said, "hinder." Really, he was just looking at a synonym
there. I think he had gone back in his mind really to where this word is
primeval which means 'go before', which something was ahead of you it
would be hindering you. But, it really isn't the actual meaning of it. 
Primeval means to literally 'go before'. And the actual Greek is 'take
precedence'.  

		(15)	…shall not prevent (if you want to use that) them which are
asleep.

		(16) 	For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with 						the voice of the archangel, the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ 					shall rise first:

		(17) 	And we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
with 					them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: so shall we
ever be 						with the Lord.

		(18) 	Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

2.	Now, Bro. Branham said in the Rapture tape, that Jesus does all three
in descending. And he says, "The Shout is the Message." And we are more
than convinced that the Message was what he was to deliver. And as he
said in this quote that I bring you so very many, many times.

		"I want you to know this is sure. And you that listen to this tape,
you might 				have thought today that I was trying to say that about
myself, being that I 					was packing this Message. I have no more to do
with it than nothing, no more 				than just a voice." [Anointed Ones
07-25-65]

	So, also we know the Greek affirms that this is not said to be the
literal voice of the Lord. And this of course then brings you to
Scripture, what voice could it be? Well, there's only one to qualify and
that is a prophet. Now, that's pure and simple. Anybody else can say
what he wants. "Well, now brother/sister, it's going to be a great
cherubim, it's going to be a whole flock of cherubim's, more (you know)
angels, or this or that." They can say want they want and they're liars.

	Now, I'm known for my bluff language and it gets me in a lot of
trouble. And I'm not in a mood tonight to be nice, and I don't intend to
be. I have not a nice bone in me when it comes to being off this Word as
William Branham taught it. It's a prophet, pure and simple because God
is not going to change His ways for a bunch of stupid of theologians. He
never has and He never will. Too many people are like the Sanhedrin,
they think they instruct God. And aint no such animal. God is in the
listening business provided you are talking to Him on His own terms, and
those terms are laid out in the Word. So, this has to be a prophet. And
if it's a prophet then you've got to follow how a prophet gets a
revelation. God comes to him. Now, we're talking especially in terms of
Word. 

3.	All right, we know the prophets can have dreams. God can speak in
dreams. We know that God can speak in visions, and God does. But
remember, God says in Numbers, "With my servant Moses it is not so, but
I speak to him even apparently." [Num. 12:8a] Face to face, which is lip
to ear.

	Now, we also know that Jesus is mentioned in the Book of Acts chapter
3, as coming back to this earth. But, before He can come back to this
earth, something's got to happen. That's Acts 3:20.

		(20) 	(Even God) shall send Jesus Christ, which… (was appointed, 			
		proclaimed in advance, so on.) 

		(21) 	Whom the heaven must (keep there) until the times of restitution
						(restoration) of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth 		
			of all his holy prophets since the world began.

		(22) 	For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord
your 					God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me… 

	Now, that's talking of the One that we know to be called Jesus Who is
the Christ, born of Mary who is in terms told to be that Logos that
became flesh. I didn't say that God became flesh, except in a very
indirect way there. You have to just leave that sit. Now, that's the
Logos. And It  says:

		(22)	…him shall (you) hear in all things whatsoever he shall say
unto 						you.

	Now, that's great. The question arises: when if ever did He say, "all
things?" He never did. Now, big mouth preachers, especially my favorite
kind, women. (And Mary excluded. [referring to a Sister present] They
took her papers away so she’s secure.  When she got married to Bill,
she had to throw her papers away. He, he, He.  you notice that papers
weren't even worth even burning, were they? The paper couldn't even
start a bonfire. Now, they're not fireproof.)   

4.	All right: "God, in many parts and many ways spake in time past unto
the fathers in the prophets. Hath in these last days spoken unto us in
His Son, who He hath appointed heir of all things, by Whom also He made
the world. [Heb. 1:1-2] 

	Now notice, It doesn't say He stopped talking. It said, He got sent to
take the world over. Now, if you know anything about ‘politic-in’,
and His ‘politic-in’ is what? The Gospel. He's never going to quit
talking until He takes over. See how people get messed up. Lord have
pity. Thank God for a prophet, I tell you. Thank God for God.

	Now:

		(22)	…him (you'll) hear in all things whatsoever he shall say into
you.                                     			(He's not stopped talking.)

5.	Hold your finger there, and let's go back to John 16:12.

		(12) 	I have yet many things to say unto you, but (you) cannot bear
them… 

		(13) 	Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you
into 					all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever
he shall 						hear, that shall he speak: and (he'll show) you things to
come. 						(Wonderful.)

	Turn back to John 14:18.

		(18) 	I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
(Wonderful, 						keep that in your minds.)

	Go to Ephesians 4:8, all right: 

		(8) 	Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity
					captive, and gave gifts unto men.

 	Verse 11.

		(11) 	And he gave some, apostles; some, prophets some, evangelists; 		
			some, pastors, (some,) teachers;

		(12) 	…(to) perfecting the saints, for the work of the ministry,
(filling up) 					the body of Christ: 

		(13) 	Till we all come in the unity of the faith, (even) of the
knowledge 						of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure
of the stature 					of…Christ:

		(14) 	…we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and
carried 					about with every wind of doctrine…

	I don't know for sure if that's 'pneuma', but just pretend it is, it
won't hurt us any. And pneuma's spirit, but you be carried by one
spirit. What spirit? Jesus' Spirit. Okay. (You follow what I said?)   

 		"I have many things to say unto you: the Holy Spirit will say them.
He's going 				to come back and take My place, because I am the Spirit
in flesh. (That Logos) 				Now, I am coming back, and I'm going to use a
ministry."

6.	Okay, Galatians 1:11.	

		(11) 	…I certify you, brethren, the gospel which was preached of me
is not 					after man.

		(12) 	For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but
by the 						revelation of Jesus Christ. (The Pillar of Fire came down
and taught 					him.)

	1 Corinthians 14:36.

		(36) 	What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you
only?

		(37) 	If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him
acknowledge 				that the things that I write are the commandments of the
Lord.

	1 Corinthians 2:12

		(12) 	…we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit
which 					is of God; that we might know the things that are freely
given to us 					of God.

		(13) 	Which things also (I Paul) speak, (now we, that's the editorial
'we') 						not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the
Holy 					Ghost teacheth… 

	Well, how do you mean that? Well, I mean from verse 1.

		(1) 	And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of 
					speech… ("I came."  Not we came, "I came.") …declaring unto 			
		you the testimony of God.

	He had the Pillar of Fire right there. Testimony of God, testimony of
Jesus is the actual 'data', scriptural information and fact.

		(4) 	…my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of
man's 					wisdom, but in demonstration of Spirit and of power:

		(5) 	That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the
						power of God.

 	All right, you're looking at a prophet with a priesthood. No
difference, God doesn't change. The Word came to Moses who interpreted
the Word, gave It to priesthood. The priesthood was responsible for the
Word. God used prophets.

7.	Okay, back to 1 Thessalonians then. The Voice of God is a prophet.
Now, what we want you to realize is that this Scripture is insufficient
in itself to give the definitive revelation outside of a prophet. But,
once the prophet gives the key, it is not difficult to begin to see what
each portion of this is.

	Okay, let's go to Ephesians 1: Now remember, I read, "Which we are
alive and remain," Remember I read, "God is going to bring forth the
dead." Okay, unto the Ephesian church, those full of the Holy Ghost, the
only ones that have the hope of the Resurrection. The only ones that
have the hope of the dead coming out of the ground and consorting with
them until they're taken up, are people like this: now we know they've
got the Holy Ghost. Paul says so. Now, notice:  

		(15) 	Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus,
and 						love unto all the saints,

		(16) 	Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my 		
			prayers;

		(17) 	That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, (even) the Father of
glory, 						may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in
the 						knowledge of him:

		(18) 	The eyes of your (heart) being enlightened; that (you) may know 
					what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory
of 						his (possession) in the saints, (now, that's really
inheritance, what's 						passed down father to son.)

		(19) 	And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who 
					believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

		(20) 	Which he wrought in Christ… (now, that's the Resurrection.)

8.	Now, it tells you here that the Lord is going to descend from heaven
with the Shout. It tells you…let's go look at It, to get every point.
"With the voice of the archangel, trump of God, the dead in Christ will
rise first." [1 The. 4:16] Now, It's telling you here that the dead are
going to come forth.

	Now, he tells them that he has got something for the living and the
dead, and this is what he's telling the living: 

	He said, "God is going to bring forth those dead." 

	Over here, he said, "God is going to bring forth the revelation, then
God is going to bring forth the dead." 

	That's what you have to watch. Then It says:

	"And set him at his own right hand." 

	That's the Rapture, to have three things mentioned. In Ephesians you
have three things mentioned in Thessalonians.

	In Ephesians it's:  revelation; (right?) resurrection; rapture.

9.	Now, over here It tells you in Thessalonians that: don't you worry,
God is going to raise those dead, then we which are alive and remain at
the time of the Presence of the raising of the dead (and you're alive)
there are three things that happen.  

	One:  The Lord Himself descends. So, He's Present.

	The Lord Himself descends to raise the dead, because He's got to be
Present. 

	1 Corinthians 15:

		(20) 	But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
firstfruits 						of them that slept.

		(21) 	For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection
of 					the dead.

		(22) 	For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made
alive.

		(23) 	But every man in his own order…

	Not that's talking about this Resurrection, not the one that's past.
Because Paul said, "Some of you claim the Resurrection is past." Well,
the first part had passed. This part hasn't passed.

		(23)	…Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are at his
(Presence).

	So, He's going to be Present with the living and the dead. Now, the
revelation comes to the living. The Resurrection comes to the dead.
(See?)

10.	Now, with the Resurrection hand in hand comes immortality to the
living. 1 Corinthians 15.

	Okay:

		(35) 	…some man will say, How are the dead raised up? with what body
					do they come?

		(36) 	…fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

	Well, okay, and you don't sow  that body that shall be, but you sow the
seed. Now, verse 50.

		(50) 	Now this I say, brethren, flesh and blood cannot inherit the
kingdom 					of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

	Now, you know that. Now, what was the preface to the Kingdom of God?
(Just hold your fingers there.) Go back to the Book of Matthew 16:28.

		(28) 	…There be some standing here, (that) shall not taste of death,
till 						they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

	[Matthew] 17:2-3

		(2) 	…was transfigured before them: his face did shine as the sun,
his 						raiment was white as light.

		(3) 	And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and (Elijah) talking 
					with (them).

	All right, that's the Kingdom. Flesh and blood cannot inherit it. So,
they've got to get glorified. So therefore, it's the time of the Voice,
for the archangel, due to the processes of the Shout, because that's
what they are getting; which in turn brings about the Resurrection. They
will be changed, they'll be all caught up to meet the Lord in the air,
and forever be with Him.

	So therefore, once you get the keys it is easy to see that the Shout is
the Message. The Voice is the Resurrection, and the Trump is the
summoning to the Wedding Supper. And we're all caught up at that
particular time.

11.	So therefore, what you have to know is what Bro. Branham said about
the Bible. It's literally a jug-saw puzzle. Now, no one likes to be
irreverent and say that God had a jig-saw puzzle. Well, what if He did?
You know, we're a little nicer than God. I've been telling you for a
long time I am, but I haven't got anybody convinced, because no one's
come up here to take my shoes off and kiss my toe. That's about as much
as I'd allow, because I'm a very wonderful person. You get that close
that's enough. [laughter]

	Isn't strange…isn't strange how that man will go to church and hear a
sermon, "Oh, we're so unholy, oh, we're so needy, oh Lord, oh Lord." And
then, "Watch out there Lord, we're going to tell you how it's done."
(Yeah) Oh, they're so nice, they can't wait to commit spiritual
adultery.

	I don't have much use for people (you know) per se. I've got pretty
raunchy, pretty flakey I guess these last few years.

	How in the world can you have respect for anybody, or anything that
does not admit to a vindicated personage? William Branham told us the
truth, "The Bible is a jig-saw puzzle." And I was putting some of the
pieces together for you now. Because, the entire picture of what happens
has never been told until this hour.

12.	Now, like a jig-saw. Now, here's the thing that I want you to watch
and rejoice in with me if I can get it across to you: there is nothing
in this Book that needs to be added to. But, revelation of some of It is
missing. The ability to bring together the Scripture that is part of the
revelation in the sense as to Its’ complete necessity and purity, so
that the revelation is the revelation of God. And that that doctrine
would be the Word of God concerning that thing. It's all here.

	Now, as Bro. Branham said, "Jesus came according to Scripture, but not
according to their interpretation." Now, what I'm trying to get you to
see is this, let's say it's all here, because It is all here. But
remember, it is like It says here: "In many parts and in many ways." 

	So, Paul is teaching the complete subject. The Holy Ghost is teaching
every complete subject, but in a way that if you take one piece of your
jig-saw, which means misplacing, misinterpreting, misrepresenting,
taking out, putting in, and these various things that can be done, it is
no longer legitimate.

	Now, all through the ages since Luther when the Word fell in the
ground, and the Bride fell in the ground and died. There has been coming
back a truth, but it is still jig-saw truth. Now, every component part
of a jig-saw fits in the prerequisite, or the pre-required place by the
eye that can see it, where it fits, and when the jig-saw is finished you
have a complete picture. That's what happened under the Seals. What was
left out, or not able to be filled in, what was askew, what had been
added ignorantly perhaps, but didn't belong there. The prophet came, and
when he got finished we had a perfect revelation for this hour whether
anybody wants to believe it or not.

13.	Now, that's how we treat the subject of the Rapture under Bro.
Branham's ministry. 

	We know;  that what he said is the truth. 

	We know;  that the Message is the Shout. 

	We know;  that the Voice is the Resurrection.

	We know;  that the Trumpet is the calling to the Wedding Supper.

	So therefore, all we have to do is read your Bible. And every time you
find any Scripture at all that refers to anything which would be place
in the category of, "Behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all
sleep." [1 Cor 15:51]

	Well, you say, "Hey, that belongs to 1 Thessalonians [4:13] "I would
not have you ignorant my brethren, you that are living concerning them
which are asleep." What does he say here? What does he say here? Well,
they go together. Now that the prophet gave us the key there is no
trouble. Now, what you do from now on, you just search your Bible. And
as you read you're going to find more and more of this will come
together. (See?) Because, It runs in a continuity. 

14.	Now, for me to absolutely tell you how the Voice, is the Voice of
the Resurrection, I don't have to go any further then John 5: and John
11: those two chapters. (I don't know if I can even find the verses
where they belong.) Remember, Job said, "He will call, and I will
answer." [Job 14:15] So, you got that.

	Now: [John 5:]

		(25) 	Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is,
when 					the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that
hear 						shall live.

	Now notice: "Verily, verily, I say to you, the hour is coming and now
is." Now, he absolutely, there was a Resurrection. Jesus came out of the
grave, they came out with Him. There's your Voice. [Verse] 28.

		(28) 	Marvel not this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that
are in the 					graves shall hear his voice, (that's two thousand years
later.)

	It's the same Voice. John 11:26. There's your key.

		(26) 	…whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never (perish. Do 
					you believe) this?

	And then way down:  

		(43) 	…he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. (Now, it's
Voice. 					What did it? A Voice.)

	Now, Bro. Branham categorically says, "Jesus was God when He raised the
dead." What Voice was it? God's Voice. How does God have a voice? Well,
He can have a voice as nobody on earth used His voice when God called
Him out of the grave in the first part of the First Resurrection. Now,
some people say, "Bro. Branham's got to come back, and he's got to call
the dead out of the graves." I don't believe that, God's going to call
them out, as far as I'm concern. This is what happened here, it happens
over there. So therefore, we see that the Voice is bringing the dead
out. 

15.	All right, what's the third thing? Well, there's only one thing
left, that's Rapture. What's that? That's Trumpet. Now, I haven't looked
anywhere for Trump, to be honest with you. I suppose I can, just haven't
bothered I suppose. Hasn't been impressed upon me. But, maybe one of
these days I'll go ahead and start looking at It, and just see all those
that have to do with Trumpet. And remember, trumpets are very…have
very wide range application. They're made for announcements. They're
made to declare war. They're made to get attention. Look at…under the
Sixth Seal, the Trumpet. And you'll see very much there that…I'm not
prepared to go into that, because that many study in it. Made no notes
on it. 

	So, that's how you look at it, and that's about as far as I can take
you on that. Because, those are the three things there that stand out.
You saw with number one absolutely. Saw His Own Voice. Number two,
categorically is because He is the Chief Messenger. God always was His
Own Messenger.  Who came to Moses? God came to Moses. Who came to Adam?
God came to Adam. So, we have God coming. And it all lines up very
nicely with Scripture. 

	Okay? Anything else you want to know concerning that?

	[Question two:]

	“Did Bro. Branham say anything about the Voice and the Bride?

	Well, no, he mentions the Bride raises the dead. But I can't give you
the exact quote on that. But, I believe that has to do with the fact
that: they without us cannot be made perfect. There's something is
transpiring in a Bride. I don't see any way that they can come out of
the ground until the 'Shout' has thoroughly worked its course. 

16.	Because let's face it, let's go back to the Book of Malachi 4, and
see for ourselves. It says here:

		(5) 	Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of
the 					great and dreadful day of the LORD:

		(6) 	And he shall turn the heart(s) …of the children (back) to (the)
fathers, 					lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

	So, absolutely the people that are being exposed to this Message will
absolutely have to come to a place where death can be swallowed into
victory.

17.	Let's go to 1 Corinthians 15 again on that. I want to show you
something I didn't bring out the other day. (I thought I might leave it
till Sunday, but now you've brought it out which is cover it today. The
other folk can get the tape.)

	Now, he says here: [1 Corinthians 15:]  

		(35) 	…How are the dead raised up? …what body do they come?

	Well, they got to die. Then they're quicken. And they don't get the
same body, they get another one. They come in a glorious body.  Verse
42.

		(42)	…(the body) sown in corruption; raised in incorruption:

		(43) 	It is sown in dishonour; raised in glory:  sown in weakness; 			
			raised in power:

		(44) 	…sown a natural body; raised a spiritual body. There is a
natural 						body, and there is a spiritual body.

	Then It says here, verse 49,

		(49) 	…as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall bear the
image 					of the heavenly.

		(50) 	…this I say, brethren, (you got to get a change, because,)
flesh and 						blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; (yet they got
to be bodies, 					they're not going to be spirits. They just can't be
seen. They got to 						be clothed, see?) neither
corruption…incorruption.

	So, he tells you the kind of body. Now:

		(51) 	(Now, I'm going to show) you a mystery; (We'll) not all sleep,
we 						shall all be changed,

		(52) 	In a moment, twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: the trumpet
						shall sound, the dead raised incorruptible… 

	Now notice, that this dead here is being raised at the last Trumpet. As
we know that It's a  Voice that raises the dead. So, this is a period of
time. The last Trumpet, is the trumpet of Revelation 10:7. 

		(52)	…and we shall be changed.

		(53) 	For this (corruptibility) must put on (incorruptibility), this
mortal 						must put on immortality.

		(54) 	So when this (corruptibility) shall have put on
(incorruptibility), and 					this mortal shall have put on
immortality…

	In other words, the dead are out of the ground, that's taken care of.
We are changed, that's taken care of.

		(54)	(Then,) …Death is swallowed up in (a) victory.

18.	Now, my own thinking on this subject is this: (although it is true)
"that death is swallowed up in a victory." That is like a conclusion.
How do you stop death until first of all you get a victory? That is my
conclusion. So, my understanding of this Scripture here, and I know
nothing that Bro. Branham says that disagrees with it. If there is, I'd
like to find it. But, I believe right here is why he said that: "The
Bride brings about a resurrection." We'll have to get that quote, to get
it exactly right. (I just can't give it exactly right. I don't even know
where to find it to tell you the truth. This moment my mind's a blank.) 

	My idea, understanding on this is, that before death can be stopped,
it's got to be swallowed up. And I believe as I've been teaching that
what has happened, and is happening through the creativity of the
revealed Word as concerning our own physical corruption, there's
something going on right now. Where the cells in the body that went down
are being brought back new. Ours are not are not simply being brought
back like Abraham, there's a change, so that this stops us literally
from dying. Something is set in. And of course on the other hand if you
don't like that understanding you go to the place where as soon as God
raises the dead.  

19.	All right, that means that death has got to be called back from a
Bride, because she's got to go too. But, then again you see, that would
obviate for me the understanding of Scripture, that: "Behold, I send you
Elijah," and if he didn't come to turn the hearts back, then, what he
would have to do is destroy every righteous person, then have a
resurrection. But, God cannot destroy the righteous with the wicked. So
therefore, how righteous are these people under the Seven Seals? Well,
they become the spotless virtuous Bride. The spotless virtuous son of
God. And I can't see anything but what I teach on this subject. Every
place I go just…my mind goes right back to what I teach.

		(55) 	O death, where is (your) sting? …

	Well, these fellows that came out of the grave already were stung. But
they could say, "What good did it do you? All we did is go to a better
place, aha, ha, ha." Well, little kids are fine, I don't mind. Say, "Ha,
ha, ha," too. That's fine.

	But, what about the sting of death for the Bride? How come she doesn't
get stung?  

		(56) 	The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

	What happened? Well, if God doesn't absolutely to take over to abrogate
I don't know what's going to happen. And that's got to come under the
Seals, which is Thunders, which is the Word. And there again, Bro.
Branham said, "There's light, (he said) that was just a word, once the
light came that was a reality, who needed a word?" He didn't need it.
Now today we're under reality.  

		(56) 	The sting of death is sin; the strength of sin is the law.

		(57) 	But (thank be to) God, which (gives) us the victory through our 
					Lord Jesus Christ. (There, It tells you right there.)

	As Bro. Branham said, "We don't know how He's going to do it, we know
He's going to do it." Well, you better believe we know He's going to do
it. And our understanding right here according to what He taught is in a
measure we do know how He is going to do it in the sense that we're
under that which is the Word, which brings It to pass. So, that's what I
look at.

20.	All right, anything else?

 [Question three: inaudible]

	That's  half an hour right there. That's all right, we're not going to
stay too late. 1 Thessalonians 4:  caught up? Well, I tell you what, I
believe that you kind of go back to Acts 1: there and see how He got
taken up. Now, these are regular clouds we're going to look at here as
far as I know. Verse 9.

		(9) 	And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was 		
			taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

	Now, that Cloud could have been the same kind of cloud that He came in
twenty six miles high, and thirty miles across. It's very possible, it's
the same Cloud, and we'll be caught up in the same way. 

	Now, the reason that I'm not against that, you understand that Bro.
Branham categorically mentioned these flying saucers, and he said,
"It'll pick you up one of these days." And they're Clouds of light.
(See?) So, that's kind of what I would think we're looking at. It could
be just a phenomenon to the world. The world never saw those angels and
saw Christ amongst them. He didn't see the one with the long wig, (you
know). They didn't see it. Actually, the photographer caught It to a
degree, (you know) it wasn't the world's best, but it's pretty good
though. So, that's pretty well what I would say there as this time,
Dave. They will be real clouds, but, don't be confused, there's clouds
of glory too. And He was appearing on the scene back in Luther's day
starting with a cloud of glory.

21.	And as Bro. Branham said, "Oh, what will this glory bring forth?"
That's where you've got to go the 'show bread', the 'Shekinah' glory
behind the curtain, becoming a part of it. That glory goes into
immortality, bringing about a resurrection. So, that's kind of the
clouds I like to get all strung out in; more than the others, because I
figure it… I figure they'll just work automatic when the time comes.
So, this is something that you and I sort of work on.

	That's pretty well…I think that's about the best I can say on that.
They're real clouds. It`s more than likely it's just what we saw already
in our hour, and they look just like clouds to the apostles, because
they didn't have telescopes either. And if they had, they wouldn't have
known it. But, I'll tell you one thing, they knew He was up there in
them. 

	So, "Behold, He cometh with clouds; also, every eye shall see Him."
[Rev 1:7] And I tell you, that every eye seeing Him is narrowing down.
There are a lot of people seeing Him. We have seen Him in His glory.
Okay, (I think that's about what I can do on that, until something else
comes up, something else strikes the mind.)

22.	Anybody else got a question?

 [Question four:]  

	"My wife wondered if you would want to comment on angels? "

	On angels? Oh, I tell you, I don’t know that I can do too much about
that, for this reason.  God made cherubim, and He made archangels, and
He made evidently, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of angels. 
And, according to Milton, (which Bro. Branham endorses from Scripture)
some one third of the angels fell. But, he also mentions that everyone
of us have an angel.  Beholding the Father’s face. He said, “That is
a spirit.”  And, here’s where I get plumb lost.  He talks about that
woman that has a baby, that angel, that spirit is there waiting to take
on a body.   And all those things I don’t understand.  Actually, I’m
sorry, but, I just don’t understand.  And, I haven’t had the nerve
to look into it.   

	They’ll not fall, and they are all some part of the redeemed, or the
election somewhere down the line. You know, like, there's number one:
Election, which are all in Christ, New Jerusalem. Foreknown, they're the
other part which are the virgins (you know) cut out of the cloth, but
they're the same cloth. Come up in the Second Resurrection. And we get
into all of that. Say, well now, if one third fell, then they are going
to be destroyed. These two thirds that didn't fall, they took on bodies.
How many are there? Well, up to date I'd say, twenty billion. If, that
many are going to go up into the Second Resurrection.

	Well, let's say, twenty billion people from the time that Adam came on
the earth, and alright, one third of those then are serpent seed. So,
okay, now we've got the six and two thirds billion, and we now then
have…thirteen and a third billion of the good ones. See, I don't know
where my thinking would go a million different ways. And I'm not
prepared to do too much about it. I'm not.

	How many angels were left in heaven and say, "Holy, holy, holy." [Bro.
Vayle chuckles] I, just tell you, I'm laughing at my ignorance. I can't
tell you. I don't understand. See, brother, sometimes Bro. Branham has
different thoughts than mine, then we do. What all I can do is to work
from my own thinking until I can get His thinking. My thinking just
says, "Hey…" I end up without knowing anything much about angels. 

 	I understand each one has a guardian angel too, in the sense of the
word, but, I can't say much. I just don't know too much. Billy Graham
wrote a book on it, but I'm not willing to take his as anything which is
too credible. But, I wouldn't say that he is wrong. That is bad angels,
spirits and things like that, because an angel is a spirit. I wish I had
that a little better, but I don't.

23.	Anybody else: 

[Question five: inaudible]  

	Well, he categorically said that: "The Bride had everything she needed
under the Seven Seals to put her in a Rapture." So, we know the
rapturing faith which was very much on his mind as greatly missing
categorically as to its magnitude that would bring about a Rapture.
Because, he would say, "We've hardly enough faith for a healing." So, he
said, "We don't have the faith for a Rapture."

	Well, I'll put it this way: since faith is a revelation, (and in one
place he did say the Rapture was a revelation) it would be my opinion,
or my thoughts on what he said that until the revelation under the Seven
Seals, particularly the Seven Thunders, the great mysteries become
dynamic to us, there will not be enough of the definitive positioning of
each person through a true divine revelation as being a part of that
Rapture to take her off the ground. But, that's what I believe what he
had in mind right there. 

	But, I believe It's right here. And I believe one of the great keys is
the constant speaking, pondering, examining, exploring, and finally
understanding through these processes moved upon by the Holy Ghost that
brings us to this place; where there is a constant progression toward
the Rapture. As Bro. Branham said, "Enoch walked with God and was not,
because God took him." And I thing at that particular instance he was
referring to Enoch's progressive revelation and oneness with Him. 

	So, it was like a little kid said, "One day Enoch and God were walking
and Enoch got so close to God's house, God said, 'Enoch why don't you
just come over to My house, it's too far back to yours'." [Bro. Vayle
chuckles] I think spiritually speaking this is what we have in mind
concerning the faith that's going to put us in the Rapture.

24.	I don't believe that faith per se, which I use in the terms of the
denominations where they constantly quote, (especially Pentecostal's)
"The Kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by
force." [Mt 11:12] "And if we have the faith of a grain of a mustard
seed, you'll move mountains. Say to this mountain, 'be thou moved'." [Mt
17:20]

	But, you know when it came to Bro. Branham and the faith that moved
mountains which was in the procurement of squirrels through creation,
that wasn't anybody sitting there huffing and puffing and pulling
himself up to a position in faith by his boot-straps, or anything that
he had on his own. It was all in the dynamism of God. So, what I'm
looking at here then is not anything that you might think I'm looking at
in the sense of we building our faith up ourselves as thought we had
ability to do it. It is all here now, and I think lying in the Presence
of the Son. And which would have more to do with going to His Word and
believing It, and watching It, giving It credibility in our lives.
Knowing that there's no place else to turn. Knowing that the end, we
shall not perish with the wicked. Knowing these things standing on them.

 	I believe what He is doing as these revelations come, it is solidly
cementing huge chunks of faith together, until it's all together from
the Seven Seals, the Seven Thunders, and we'll find ourselves of one
mind. And we'll find ourselves getting out of here. But, it's going to
be a complete revelation. It's going to be something that God is doing.
It's going to be something that's going to be done to God's Elect. I
just don't see too much of man in here at all. I think that's why Bro.
Branham said, "Lie in the Son and ripen. Now, ripening (he said) you're
green." And what it means, there's a maturity of character.

25.	Now, when he used the word 'green' he was on good Bible grounds from
Romans 5: you want to just take a look at It:

		(1) 	Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God
through 					our Lord Jesus Christ:

		(2) 	By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we 	
				stand, rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

		(3) 	And not only so, but we glory in tribulations: knowing that
tribulation 					worketh patience; (that's endurance.)

	And endurance, character, or maturity. And maturity, that's your
ripeness brings you to this expectation making you to know that you're a
part of it.

	And remember, that's a couple of years ago I used this one night,
Romans 5: the tapes are still around, where I worked on this one night
to show you that this is the very hour in which we live. See, to me
everything two years ago became a little less…a little more than two
years became absolutely pertinent to this hour. I don't see anything
here that's not pertinent. Once you see this Message that's all you'll
see. Everything else, why you just…goes by until it relates to the
Message. 

	But, there is…having been justified and now knowing that the Bride is
justified that you didn't sin, we are now moving into those experiences.
And believe me, I know we don't like them. Of course, I say a lot of my
trouble is myself. People just wouldn't throw spit-balls, they wouldn't
get them thrown back with a whole lot more on it. That's just the whole
trouble. 

26.	So, that's why people don't like me saying things I do. I don't
particularly like it myself, I'm not proud of it, but that's one of my
short comings. Of course, when I go, that'll be one of their happy
goings. But, I tell you, I haven't lied, or have I vaunted myself. I
haven't told you people how much money, I left at a good job to come to
this little place.

	Would you like to know how much I could make on the road if I stayed on
the road day and night? I don't know how much myself, but there wouldn't
be one person here worth more than I'm worth if I stayed on the road. So
you see, I'm really sacrificing and stay home. So you see, I must be a
wonderful guy. I hope you realize that. [laughter] (Phfft!) 

	Listen, that's the kind of talk I get around the country. Oh, these
wonderful guys. You know something? I'm waiting for the day He comes. If
I get burnt past a crisp, and I found that I had nothing after all, at
least I will see somebody who has got something. That's how my heart
longs for Reality.

27.	Oh sure, it won't be fun. I'm not saying it's going to be fun. But,
I'm going to tell you something: there are too many people, even this
Message so called, who don't realize what we are talking about in this
hour. I'm only beginning to realize what I saw in Bro. Branham, and
could never understand why that man would talk about God like…I could
look at that Bible, look it, black Morocco leather, pig skin seal, India
paper. God was so real to that man. There's nothing about that fellow
that was a ham actor.

	I know a lot of preachers, they're evangelists, they're the worst of
the worst. They're ham actors. As soon as they get in a restaurant they
raise their voices to convince anybody they're born again. Everybody
else should be born again. You can say, I've got as much use for that as
I have for trying to walk on my hands and knees to Rome. I don't believe
in ham acting. At times I know we get pretty cruddy. I never said we
didn't. But, ham acting is out. William Branham was not a ham actor. I
was around that man too much. 

	That man had Reality. And his reality didn't say, "Look at me: my
father was a great person, and my mother was a princess of an Indian
tribe." Now, she was likely wild as an Indian, because she was part
Indian. What if Bro. Branham ever say that he was descended from Irish
kings? Ha, ha, ha, ha, kinks maybe. [laughter] Drunken ancestors. Why,
he said, "I was going to be a skunk skinner. Look at me boys, I have a
great job, skunk skinning."

28.	I don't understand these preachers that talk how wonderful they are.
And what great jobs they left. I kind of wish they hadn't of. [laughter]
I'm not going to say, "Lord, forgive me either." Until He makes me. I
don't think I need to say, "Lord, forgive me." Maybe I've got nothing to
say about it, maybe they'll wish they hadn't. That's maybe more truth of
it. No, no big-shots.

	That's one thing I like about this Message, there's only one Holy One,
that's the Holy Ghost. There's only one big One, and that's that great
big God. I saw Him in a vision, just out lined in a vision, like a
theophany come on down. Believe me, I'm going to tell you
brother/sister, if you want to know how big the world is, it's about the
size of that little (what do you call, 'em, right there) that chimney.
Now, you see a giant, look maybe sixty feet tall, with just feet. Oh,
let the world, the world was just big enough for the feet… I saw in a
vision, years and years ago, the mighty One come down, dressed with a
robe all the way down. Didn't see flames of fire. Just saw the long
hair. I don't remember if it was white, or what it was. I want to tell
you something brother, ain't no big ones when you see Him.    

 	You know, why I think all this talk about 'Bigfoot too, and Sasquatch,
and all those things, (you know) is supposed to…there's some big clout
out there in the bush. I think it's all indicative of this hour, the
Great One is here. The Great One is here. They don't want to recognize
it. My,   I preach this all the time, and I don't do it justice, and I
don't recognize it, I admit it, I'm carnal as get out. But, I shudder to
think a man that doesn't even recognize what is going on. Maybe I'm
wrong, maybe they're right. But, I sure don't believe they're right. I
believe we're a hundred percent right.

29.	Any more questions?  Before time runs out.

 [Question six: inaudible] 

	You're faith will be there when it's time to go, don't worry. You'll
have everything you need. Remember, faith that moves mountains is a
mustard seed. Jesus said, "Though you have faith, a grain of a mustard
seed." He said, "say to this mountain."  [Mt 17:20] Turned right around.

	Paul said, "Though I have faith to move a mountain." [1 Cor 13:2] All
faith, and teeny faith, big faith, any faith is faith. And the faith for
the Resurrection and the Rapture is rapturing-faith, it is not healing
faith. Bro. Branham didn't say it was healing faith, he said it was a
rapturing faith. So, don't worry, it's be there when you need it. (Yep)

	You won't have to worry about trying to make your own ladder,
brother/sisters. No, the former and latter-rain is just what it is. Like
rain coming down upon the grass.

30.	[Question seven: inaudible] 

	Well, because He hadn't gone up. He had to lead them up. [question
continues] Yeah, but, only the Bride will. Evidently, Bro. Branham makes
comments, I think three explicit places on the tapes, where he mentions
seeing the resurrected Saints. And I have my own conclusion is on what
he was saying, is only the Bride will see them. Because he said, "Once
you see them, a sweep will go over you." Unless the others see them
before we do, which I doubt.  I believe that the resurrected Saints will
be seen by the people, and they will be walking the streets. And he
said, "If they come to your door, open the door and let them in."

	In other words, you don't slam the door and say, "Hey, if you're a
resurrected body (you know) come through this door." They could go
through a mountain of lead fifty miles wide. Quicker than you can think,
or bat your eye. So, they could come through, but they're just like
human beings. So, perhaps there is a bit where they might be seen by
somebody outside the Bride. But my own understanding is from what he
taught, that the Bride will see Him. And they did walk the streets,
because Christ had not gone up Himself. They were with the living.
(Yeah)

31.	[Question eight: inaudible]

	Oh, no doubt. Absolutely, you might even fry him a meal. Give him a
fish-cake or something. Bro. Branham said, "Jesus ate his fish
sandwich." That answered my question. I forgot he said it, so I keep
pondering it, was there any place where Bro. Branham said when Jesus
made the fish on the fire that He ate any? And then I was talking to a
brother, and he said, "Yeah, (he said) he ate a fish sandwich." 

	I said, "That's good." Then the next thing I knew I found it myself. I
just saw it the other day again, but I can't remember where I saw it. My
memory is no good. As long as I know what was said, I don't much care
where it was said.

32.	[Question nine: inaudible]

	I don't know. I know that Bro. Branham did say if he knew the Lord was
coming tomorrow you'd pound your nails, keep pounding your nails, you'd
be doing something. So, that lets you out there. There's be a people
will be doing things. Just what we'll all be doing, I don't know. But,
in that particular time, I don't know. I often thought myself, that
during that time where the Resurrection could last a minimum of thirty
days, thirty, forty days, because remember, Jesus was about forty days
with them. The possibility, because of the manifestation of sons of God,
the fullness is in the Resurrection. There could be certain things that
apply at that time.

	But, Bro. Branham did say, "Don't look for big things, that's under the
two witnesses." So, I couldn't say what will be done. I refrain very
much. All I know is, he did say, "You'll have work to do, or keep still.
I think myself, that both precedes and goes into the Resurrection, but I
don't know. It's just something I'm looking at, Don.

33.	[Question ten: inaudible]

	There's a possibility as I've said here, that Bro. Branham said, "You
talk about departed loved ones that's born again, (you know) real
Christians, and you talk, (he said) you feel a sweet spirit in the
room." He said, "That's a spirit of that person."

	I think that maybe that Sadhu Sundar Singh said something along the
same line, "that they're able to see, and to be amongst us." 

	Because remember, he [Bro. Branham] said, "Heaven is just a dimension.
You're going to find, (he said) everything's a dimension, and what was a
hundred and fifty million light years away is merely going in circles."
All things are in dimensions.

	So, they could be passing through this room. And that's very true.
That's why it's so good to be thinking upon those that are gone before,
the real Christians, the real men of God, Bro. Branham, Bro. Bosworth,
fine men of God that we've known and know about. Old timers that
preceded them. Talk about them, but above all think about, talk about
the Lord, but keep in mind them with the Lord, because they're part of
Him. They were in His thoughts. They form part of that great body that's
going to be in the New Jerusalem. And that would be a great blessing, I
think at all times.

34.	But remember, still remember this though: no matter how much you
think about any sweet person that's gone on, that's merely incidental,
to thinking of the sweet person that going to take us on. Because, I
tell you, anything else to me is …could go a little dangerous. The
devil just like to slip in anytime, and anyplace he can. Keep in
balance. Keep in balance. Sure, I wouldn't be surprised in a meeting
that we talk about Bro. Branham, and, I guess maybe I have done more in
the sense of the Word of laying out a Scripture, who he is then anybody
living. Maybe anybody who ever will live. It is possible, I don't know.
From what he was earth, that was certainly the truth. And it is possible
is say, as we talk about him and bring out all these things in Scripture
concerning him, the prophet the servant of God, that both the spirit,
Christ Himself in Spirit form, and His prophet in spirit form could be
here.

	I wouldn't say they were. I wouldn't say they weren't. Might as well
believe for every, believe for the best. Don't say we got it.  And don't
say we got it to exclusion of anybody else either. Just say possibility
could be. See, I don't have any problems with the Presence of God in the
Bride. To me in my mind I see a Bride on this earth that's purely
compacted, as thought she were in one place. And yet she could be
thousands of miles apart, but I see her as one. And I see Him in the
midst of her as though she was holding hands with each one. And this is
in person of Christ I see it. I do not see it, as a modicum or a portion
of His Sprit in each of us. And we scattered across the millions of
acres of land on this earth. No way, I see a Bride, maybe like a
pyramid, or some form. And in my mind I see Him in her midst, and I just
feel very happy about it. I have a very definitive revelation. Very,
very strong definitive understanding, a concrete what I'm dealing with.
And I don't know how it strikes you, I hope you have the same
understanding I have. Because, it sure won't hurt you, do you good. It
makes it very real to just know.

35.	[Question eleven:]

	“The prophet said that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the
world. In other words, God spoke it.  I other words… Now is it, (I
don’t know how to say it, so it comes across plainly) would that same
relationship be the same as we find out about this resurrection?”

	Yeah, it's all foreknowledge. Look, everything is foreknowledge. See,
the major component of God contrary to most people is not power, it's
wisdom. Omniscience and omnipotence. And of the two, omniscience is far
superior to omnipotence. Quote the fact of a skinny four foot six runt,
throw a two hundred and eighty pound man across the room. All he's got
to know is leverage and he's gone. 

	Quote, the fellow down in Florida that died a derelict, because his
girl friend jilted him, and yet he understood the secret of the pyramids
if anybody did from this account if, this is how the pyramids were
built. He used pulleys and pieces of string and he could move rocks
weighing many, many tons around his garden, with just his finger. And he
would tell nobody how it was done and he died with nobody knowing it.

	So, wisdom of which God is the great reservoir. He is the sole owner of
wisdom. Nobody else. That's by far the most appropriate thing to look
at, and by far the greatest attribute that God has when you're going to
compare attributes of the original division power and wisdom;
omniscience and omnipotence. (See?) 

36.	Now, here's where God foreknew, and it was in His omnipotence that
He brought foreknowledge into predestination. But, He used election,
because He was dealing with men, and at this point all we really know of
God, per wisdom, is to see His wisdom in nature and that's been messed
with. Badly messed with by the enemy. The earth is no longer perfect,
it's getting completely void and chaotic again.

	So, seeing God in His wisdom manifestly through carnal eyeballs is very
second rate. But, when you go into redemption and you begin seeing
wisdom, so that you come into elections, callings, predestination, all
those things, then you begin to see His Wisdom all the more clearly, and
appreciate it all the more. But, there's no doubt about it, slain before
the foundation of the world. Is no more to be believed than the
resurrections from before the foundation of the world. Because, we're
dealing with the omniscience, the wisdom of God. It was all in there.
Even before that little Light, the Logos, went out moving around,
starting to form. It was of God by His Spirit could begin to reach out
and move and form. And from that point on, when the original creation,
which was that Light coming out, that original creation emits,
everything else began moving out of It. Because, that was the start,
"I've got everything assembled, I'm now moving into the realm of
complete materialization, manifestation, revelation, complete with that
with which I want to have spiritual fellowship, communion, make Myself
known."

 	Sure, it was all known back there. There wasn't anything that wasn't
from before the foundation. I don't believe one single solitary thing,
there wasn't before the foundation. As Bro. Branham said, "He know how
many fleas there would be and how many times he's bat his eyes, and how
much tallow a flea had." Well, when you get that far down, you got a
pretty fine scales. (Yep) That's what I'd say, foreknowledge, yep.

37.	Anything else?

 [Question twelve: inaudible] 

	See, that's you Lamb's Book of Life too. First Resurrection, Lamb's
Book of Life. Not Life, Lamb's Book of Life. [Question continues
inaudible]

	Yeah, well, your foreknowledge is your architect, first of all brewing
the idea, conceiving it, then your predestination is where you have the
material to work with. See, God created the material to work with
according to His foreknowledge. The best we can do is to have material,
then we get ideas about it. We work opposite, we go the opposite
direction. See, God doesn't have to. God works right from the beginning.
But, that's the idea. Blue-prints, they are great architects.

38.	Any more?

 [Question thirteen: inaudible] 

	Well, not known perhaps that if he's cast out, but he must have been
allowed down there, because that creation according to Isaiah 45: 

		(18) 	…thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself
that 						formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he
created it 						not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited…

	Well, evidently the original creation where He could have put a man and
other things that He wanted to work with, Satan got down there and
evidently messed things up to the extent that God had to wipe it out. 

39.	Now, Ezekiel 28: All right: 

		(12) 	Son of man, take up a lamentation (that’s) the king of
Tyrus…Thus 					saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of
wisdom, and 						perfect in beauty.

		(13) 	Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone 	
				was thy covering, the sardius, topaz…

	So, Satan was even on earth allowed to walk around, but he's the prince
of the power of the air. And he can appear in the presence of God
evidently at certain times. He has been able to. "He's the accuser of
the brethren."  [Rev 12:10] 

	And in Revelation 12: though, he's going to be cast down at the same
time the Bride's taken up. Now, It said verse 7;

		(7) 	…there was war in heaven: Michael (the archangel) fought
against 						the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

		(8) 	And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in
heaven.

		(9) 	…the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the
Devil, 						and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: cast out into
the earth, 					and his angels were cast out with him.

	So, you see the Bride is going up, Satan is cast out. And this by the
way is another step that has been taken, or is to be taken subsequent
to;

 1 Corinthians 15:23 

		(23) 	…they that are Christ's at his (Presence).

		(24) 	Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered the 						
kingdom to God, even the Father; when (God) shall have put down 					all
rule and all authority and power.

		(25) 	For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under (Jesus')
feet.

		(26) 	The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

	So, this is another one of those facets, that we go up, he'll be cast
down. So, we're becoming more and more aware of what is going on. As
Bro. Branham said, "Always glorifying God to what took place, glorifying
to what's going to take place never know what's going on." I don't
believe we qualify for that in the ignominious sense Bro. Branham said
it. He was warning people that there should be a knowledge of what is
going on, providing something's going on. Oh, we believe something is
going on. We believe He's here. And I don't believe He's just standing
around. And I don't believe He's a yo-yo. Come down, goes up. Come down,
goes up. Come down, goes up. We go on up. I don't believe that for one
minute. I don't believe it.

40.	Let's just take a look at that, 1 Thessalonians 4: again.

		(16) 	For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout…

	Okay:  "He cometh with clouds; every eye will behold him. [Rev. 1:7]

	What if that [points to the picture of the Cloud] was just a picture?
See it anyway, didn't know what they were looking at.

	Oh you say, "Oh, my, my, that's not nice."

	You tell me the Pharisees knew what they were looking at. (Sure it's
right) Makes you think doesn't it? Man ain't too smart. Man without a
revelation, he got nothing. Man without a revelation has a false
revelation, because he can't go out without thinking.

	All right, He come on down. Here He is in a Cloud. He was, came down
with a Shout. Came down with a prophet. Prophet standing on earth. At
that time all mysteries must be revealed. At that time the Book comes
together, no more jig-saw. "No more cow eating grass on top of a tree,"
as Bro. Branham said. You get the picture? That which is perfect is
come.

	People don't believe that. You know why? Because they're confused.
They're trying to figure things. You don't try to figure anything. Lie
in the sun and ripen. I think the brain should ripen. Your brain should
ripen by being more like a screen, projector screen, so the projector
can play upon it. Just think about the Word, let the Word come in and
fall into position.

41.	So, there's a thought right there you might think about. I'm not
saying that's exactly right, but, I'm also saying it is right. Because,
that One they saw twenty-six miles up there, came down, surrounded by
seven Messengers. And each mighty One came in the room, He was the
Spirits, each one seven Spirits came on down, angelic form, (which is
scriptural) swept in the room, each day brought the Word.

	The mighty One that was meant a lot to him, was the Seventh Church Age
One. That's the One that brought…had the Thunders in His hand. Great
mysteries. And when it was all over, there was Christ revealed. As soon
as the Word was brought, Christ was completely revealed to the world.

	Now, the question is, what is He revealed at? Now, that a good thought.
I'm not prepared to preach about it, my never, I don't know. But, it's a
thought anyway.

42.	[Question fourteen: inaudible]

	I believe the Seventh Angel that came down, was just the same as number
one that came down, that was the One that stood there, not as Paul's
theophany, although I'm not saying that couldn't be. Certainly could
have been, I don't know. But, I don’t look it that way. I look those
Seven Spirits before the Throne became embodied, and were in a form
before the Throne. Maybe just portions of Word, or whatever you want to
put it, some kind of a form, each one for each age. And they all came
down and He brought the Word to Bro. Branham under each Seal. Seven
Messengers with their seven counterparts, seven angels, seven messages.
There were seven human messengers, brought seven messengers, seven
angels, sentries before the Throne, brought seven messages, outlined the
whole thing, there stood Christ revealed.

43.	 [Question fifteen: inaudible]

	Well, that's pretty hard to know for this reason: you only start with
two men of the caliber of Paul, that's Paul and William Branham. The
other merely like Irenaeus, second Church Age messenger, he was under
the ministry of Polycarp, was taught by John.

	Well, the best he could do would be the messenger, he would have a
portion of the Spirit, more than any other man in the revelatory
ministry whereby he would have everything needed so they be born again
and come out of the ground. But, he would never have at that point what
was requisite in order to finish age off, because all it did was bring
in number two. The next had a portion for three, four, five six. Under
seven the final portion comes in. But remember, the number seven cannot
be final and perfect until the others have come in with their
perfection.

	So, when you've got your sixth perfect Thunders, with your six perfect
revelations from the Seven Ages; and Bro. Branham has come in on top of
it, making number seven. Forming completely Christ in the Church, Christ
the revealed Word. And that becomes the Capstone, not the Headstone. To
me, the Headstone is physical, we rise to meet Him. We talk of Capstone,
we talk of Capstone coming down, which is the finishing off.

	Like It says in Ephesians here, (you see) you go to Ephesians 4: and It
says here:

		(16) 	From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted…

44.	You see, you're growing up into the Head which is Christ. So, you
therefore, the last thing then would be the Head alone remains. Oh, that
can't stay that way, because there's got to be a rounding off. So, the
Head Himself comes down which is spiritual, not physical. Here's where I
disagree with my brethren that don't understand the Presence of God.
They think I'm teaching something I'm not teaching. If they'd stop
listening to the tapes negatively and stop asking questions, just sit
down and listen awhile, they'd know what I'm saying. But, you can't tell
them anything, right away their minds starts flashing questions. Just
questions, questions, questions, questions. And they won't sit down and
say, "Now, Lord…" And get quiet until something can begin to move.

	Now, I do that with doctrines. I did that with the two soul doctrine. I
didn't have to worry whether William Branham was God or not, if he'd
have said he was God, I'd have been long time gone. I'd have said, "God
of what?" Because, He won't add up, God is invisible. Even Jesus was the
attributes. Bro. Branham said, "Jesus was different from God." Sure He
was different from God. God didn't have a beginning. When you talk about
God indwelling you, that's a different thing entirely.  So, we've got
the Head coming down. But, I see that coming down with those Seven
mighty Messengers. 

45.	Now, I don't have all the answers for that, but all I know is that's
what the prophet said. He said that on the 'Rapture' tape, and about two
more tapes he mentions something like I'm saying now. I not saying I've
got a perfect, but I think I understand it from what he said on the
Seals. Because, he said the Holy Spirit swept in the room, that was on
Seal number one. And then he said under the Seventh Seal, that was them
Seven Angels.

	I'm not so dumb that I can't put one and one together. He said it was
the Angel. He said It was the Holy Spirit. So, did the angel bring the
Holy Spirit, was the Holy Spirit in the form of an angel? What was it? I
believe the Holy Spirit was in the form of an Angel. Right there, that
constituted all of It, then there stood Christ. And you didn't hear one
more thing about those messengers. No way. Everything is now. There He
stands. (See?)

	So, I just believe He's here. And I believe the flesh of the Holy
Spirit is the Word. And I believe eating, you're not feeding on a man,
(Bro. Branham said) you're feeding on the Body Word. These aren't the
words of a man that Bro. Branham gave us. Now, if we believe in prophet
and God, then there's only one mind, that's the mind of God. There's
only one mouth, that's the mouth of the prophet. But, there's only one
Word. There's only one Word, that's the Word of God in the one mouth
which is the mouth of the prophet. You can't go by that and give me any
teaching on a prophet of God, because I've done settled that. That's
over.

46.	So, what I see with William Branham, I just see here he's gone. That
leaves God. That leaves this Living Word, Reality, and he said, "Thus it
has been spoken, thus it will be." In other words, Reality is right
here. And changes are going on now, and more changes are going to come.

	Let the squeeze come. Let all those things come. We don't have any
problem with them in the sense that we are to be given to looking at
them, viewing them, pondering them, thinking these things, but we are to
look at the Word which is our inalienable right, because the Word of the
Lord does not come to the prophet in order that the Word, that the
prophet may have the Word, the Word of the Lord comes to the prophet in
order that the people may have the Word. 

	And the prophet eats the same Manna, it's the same Word. He doesn't
have one thing and the people have another, anymore than the preacher
has one thing and the people have another. There's no big-shots
anywhere. If there's any big-shots that just tell you what to do, you
know, go on a diet, because you'd be wishing you had. Just get all
slimmed down from yourself, your ambitions, your desires and your great
understanding of things, because, it's only in God. 

	Okay, let's rise at this time, we've got almost an hour and a half it's
about gone.

	Heavenly Father, we're grateful again that we've had time to come
together to discuss some things in Your Word, which are upon people's
hearts, Lord. And now we trust that if there are more things there, then
we'll be given the opportunity to air them, to look at them, Lord, if
there's any help needed. In the mean time we thank You for two sessions
we've had. We pray, Lord, now for the following service on Sunday. 

	May Your hand be with us, Lord, leading us, guiding us, directing us,
teaching us the things of God, where we are certainly wanting to be more
knowledgeable than ever before. We want to show these things, Lord, that
You show us, and therefore, we've got to call upon You, Lord, in Your
Own good time. Your Own good way to show us the things that the people
would be benefited thereby to hear. As Bro. Branham often said, looking
to You, Lord, "Looking at the Word I wonder," he would say, "what would
do the people good."

	And this is what we have in mind, Lord, also what would do people good,
how can we help them. We know that they need help. So, Father, we open
hearts and ask You, and say, "what do the people need?" Where can we
help them, Lord. And we just pray this shall be what will be coming
forth on Sunday. Now, bless Your people, Lord, be with those who go,
those who stay. Grant, Lord God, Your blessing in a wonderful way upon
on all of us. 

	Now, unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be
all power and honor and glory through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. 

	'The Lord richly bless you'.

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