LV Comments #44

7/18/93-8/4/93

Bro. Lee Vayle

2min 30sec…We can’t afford to make a mistake. This is going to take
prevailing; faithful prayer. Now we’ve been very lax here in many
ways. In one way we’re laxed is that since we don’t have a Friday
night Sunday night service I notice that many people run off to picture
shows. I do not approve of you doing it and you know you should not be
doing it… or taking time to socialize in a relaxed manner that could
be lead you away from God. Have you ever thought of coming back to
church and praying and praying sincerely that you might have someone to
really help because you need a person?

5min 10sec…I guess you have your Friday night services. Your services
are good to come together and it’s also good to remember that
different ones of you should pair up if you so desire that, nobody’s
going to make you do it. But every now and then you should go over the
doctrine that we understand here taught by brother Branham. Remember
doctrine is not a dirty word. Tradition is a dirty word. And that word
is only dirty in so far as it’s man’s tradition. Because there is a
tradition of the fathers which is truly acceptable…which is the true
doctrine, by revelation.

But we don’t like using the word tradition because it has a very bad
connotation and not just a connotation… a very severe definition of
evil by Jesus. He said you have made void the commandments of God by
your traditions, which means that there isn’t one promise in existence
in the Bible that can come to pass with the slightest change. If
there’s one human thought placed upon that scripture, its void.
Eternal life is void. The millennium is void. Your standing and not
being blown away in the lake of fire is void. Your entering into the New
Jerusalem and being part of it is void. There isn’t one thing that is
not voided by adding one little tiny word. So its much incumbent upon
everybody to know what Brother Branham taught. And remember he said my
ministry is to declare that He is here.

Now I want to ask the question, who’s here? See you go instantly from
the messenger’s own declaration. Remember when the blind man was
healed (he) was blind from birth, the parents got in hot water with the
Sanhedrin, the Pharisees. And they said is this your son who was blind
and they said yes. Yes that’s our son he was born blind. How did he
get healed? You ask him he’s of age.

Well what I’m saying is who would know better than the person that was
born blind and getting his eyes suddenly open. Who would you talk too to
know more about that particular thing than that person who was the one
involved? So we go to Brother Branham as the involved person. Brother
Branham what do you mean that your ministry is to declare that He is
here? Of whom are you speaking? Under what conditions are you speaking?

What valid proof and insight do you have that I can accept that whoever
you’re talking about is here? And I want to know what that has to do
with you and what that has to do with me. And what it has to do with
scripture in the history of those people who are bound up in what they
believe to be the fellowship of Christ to be a bride.

Now those you see are things that you should know in this church and if
you don’t know them, where have you been? What are you listening to,
what’s in your minds? Surely by now you know how to shake your heads
and get the rattling peas out of there. Brother Branham said it’s like
the dried peas falling on the dry cow hide. Surely you can get your
thoughts under control to what the prophet’s said being vindicated. 
Who is here? Why is He here? What is He doing? Now all of those things
bring in thoughts.

For instance what He’s doing brings in the understanding of
roles…titles… not only what… but consequences. Those are the
things you must know. And when I find that after 10 years; there are
those that are not with us now said what’s the difference between the
Baptizer and the baptism… even claiming the Presence for years. It’s
like telling me you don’t know the difference between the chicken and
an egg and spiritually speaking you don’t, because without the
Baptizer there is no baptism. The same as if there is no chicken there
is no egg. If there is no father there is no baby.

Who’s here? Why is He here what is He doing? I want to ask you a
question. Can you tell me this morning exactly what Brother Branham said
is the ‘why’ the Baptizer is here? And we have now swung from the
emphasis of the baptism on to the Baptizer even though the emphasis on
the baptism is strictly very great, because without being born again and
baptized with the Holy Ghost you cannot be a part of the body. Now does
anybody know?

I’ve told you time and time again but perhaps you haven’t put it
together. You know Brother Branham said the baptism with the Holy Ghost
is temporal, temporary. What happens when there’s no more baptism with
the Holy Ghost? What do you deal with then? You deal with the Baptizer.
There’s no more to be added to the family. The seed has run out. The
last child is in and a process of child training.

And when the last few children are child trained, that predicates the
literal second coming which means the dead must come out of the ground,
the present living must be changed, we’ll consort for up to 40 days
with those who come forth, the trumpet will sound which is the gathering
together of the bride in the ascent, to the incarnation and the wedding
supper.

Now there’s not one man here shouldn’t know everything I’ve said
this morning and be able to tell it as easily as I can tell it. but if
you’re not thoroughly involved with these things, that this your meat
and your life, this is live die sink or swim, this is the vindicated
hour…in other words you’re not thoroughly sold out and dedicated.

13min 42sec…I want to ask you another question. Who is the pillar of
fire? The answer is, ‘it isn’t who at all’. The ‘Who’ is God
in a pillar of fire. So when the man got through trying to snow Peter
with all of his junk, he said to Peter; hoping that he’d get a real
good response that was  in the positive making him a great teacher,
someone to take the great things back to Europe and spread them around.
Why didn’t he go and do his own spreading? He said Peter what do you
think? Peter said, “I’ll tell you what I think. I think I’ll be
more careful from now on who I listen to”. Be careful what you hear
and how you hear.

19min…Thou are his disciple, but we are Moses disciple. Now listen and
get this carefully. We know that God spoke unto Moses. How did they
know? Presumptuous liars denying the very words that they stand for
because they know a prophet like Moses came with vindication before he
said a word before any doctrine before any teaching came. They said we
be Moses disciple we know what a prophet is. Did they? Go on and ask
people ‘what is a prophet’? What is a prophet really mean? Who is
The Prophet? What does it mean from amongst the brethren? Nineteen years
have gone by…more than nineteen years have gone by…1977 I
began…well it’s not 19 since then...1977 since we came on the
Presence, that’s 16 years, have gone by. And years before then I took
all of these things I’m saying this morning and I want to ask one
question? Where were there when Brother Branham taught it? Where have
they been while I’ve been teaching it… twenty some solid years going
on thirty we’ve been laying this out message after message in
literally hundreds of messages taking hundreds of hours… vindication
and let me tell you something these people turned on vindication and the
majority of people in this message don’t even understand what it’s
about and there are preachers who will only use vindication by meaning;
in order to tell you they believe in the prophet and then begin telling
you things as though they were vindicated. You can’t do it; you got to
stick with the Word.

28min 53sec… You aint got a thing coming this morning. If you have I
would prefer you go where the guy has his thing coming, just be honest.
Eight people made the ark so don’t pretend eight million are going to
make it. Don’t pretend your thoughts and my thoughts or our so called
compassion is going to know this Bible here. It says as it was in the
days of Noah. I’m not putting anybody out I’m not putting anybody
in, that’s not my job. My job is to stand here in defense of the
gospel which I intend to do at the cost of my life or any prestige I
might have or anything else I might have. That I at least might to the
best of my ability stand before God, at least I stood with His Word.
Never said one thing about living it, though that’s part of it,
don’t think it isn’t. But living it is a great part but believing is
the greatest there is.

32min…Now I trust this morning you all know where I’m coming from
and don’t feel bad if I want to know where you’re coming from every
now and then. I like to know if what is being said is in the womb of
your mind. Because if it isn’t there whatever goes down in your
heart…if it is not the true mechanical Word of Almighty God the true
revelation, then in your heart where your life is, it won’t be the
true life of God, it’s impossible it can’t get together. Now
you’ll be criticized, oh yea. You’ll be criticized. Yea the thing is
you see…well you know…that church up there…you know it tells the
truth but it’s that terrible spirit. Isn’t it strange how our spirit
is so terrible yet we know the Word of God. I’d like to have some
answers on that I would. 

That which has been is now and that which is to be hath already been and
God requireth that which is past. In other words he said listen I’m
requiring of you that which is past. You say  just, just, just, hold it,
 hold it, hold it. How can God require of me what is past? Simple as
a.b.c, He told you that which hath been is now. Look back and see if the
very thing hasn’t taken place before and taking place now. Come on,
the ministry of William Branham is literally the Jehovah ministry,
Elohim ministry in human flesh as it was in Jesus and even greater. (Bro
Vayle is speaking as one that questions this and stutters)0h my goodness
me…you just couldn’t believe that) (Bro Vayle raises his voice) I
never said William Branham was greater; I said the ministry! There’s
an awful big difference my brother my sister. William Branham never
claimed anything he said Jesus had more success in my ministry than he
had in his own. He never said he had more success than Jesus. He never
said he died for anybody. He never claimed any divine influence that he
could use as though he were somebody. He said I wanted to be a
trapper…he said against my better judgment even. I don’t want to be
a prophet. I didn’t want any of those things. I was just a voice that
stood by. A person near when He did it. How many people can take that?
How many can really take it? This divides the boys from the men, that
divides the goats from the sheep. That divides the phony from the ones
that are not phony right down the line. What can you take with
vindication? And the laughable matter why God laughs in the heavens in
derision is because they can’t produce it.It was right here in the
Word of God like I read out of Ecclesiastes. Right here what I read out
of John 9 a hundred percent with it. And you know what they’re doing,
they’re blaspheming the Holy Ghost, there’ll be no forgiveness on
this side or the other. 

37min 19sec…Now remember there is one people that’s not going to be
blown away like chaff in that day. And those are the seed of God. Their
like the tree that’s planted by the river. Leaves do not wither, their
roots are way down in the Tree of Life. They give forth the fruit in the
season. Seventh season church ages, every single one will be
there…true bride. So that’s what you’re looking at this morning
and I wanted to bring you that because I’m very serious concerning
these things at many times as we look at the sermons that Brother
Branham has brought us. And I don’t have time to go back and weave
every single thing in. I want you to know brother sister that what
Brother Branham brought us is not something that is from man’s mind.
It’s not something that God is doing new. It’s something that God
has always done it runs in its cycles, alpha is omega it takes its turn.

What has been is now being and we are told that God holds up responsible
for understanding the principle of alpha and omega. Now you might sit
here this morning and say Brother Vayle that’s ok for you, you’re a
teacher and that’s ok for some people ?????.

I want to tell you there isn’t one person here who believes that you
are part of the bride of Christ but you are responsible for
understanding that premise that Brother Branham put forward because
it’s right here in the Bible. That which has been is now and you are
responsible to recognize it. Now come on, I just read it in the 9th
chapter. I just read it to you. You’re responsible. You can’t say,
“I believe the Bible, I believe Paul”. And turn down this. No way
you can do it…see. Well Lord bless you. It’s going to fall on deaf
ears as time goes on. They’ll be less and less.       

People just simply can’t wait. They're going to start adding to the
message and figuring things out, most of them are gone back to Pentecost
anyway.

50min 26sec… Since there’s no meeting next Wednesday Brother Dave
has suggested that it’s a good time for brethren to come together and
especially begin to look into how you can best meet your
responsibilities of adult Christians who really know this message. Now
Brother Branham sort of elevated every deacon to an elder. In his church
order he has deacons apt to teach and that’s not scriptural although
he has a right to do it. Normally its elders are apt to teach.

What I see here, I see Brother Branham is taken the liberty in the Holy
Spirit and I believe by revelation to bring the deacons into a higher
order. Which now let’s get ready for the bomb. That is every man then
past the age of accountability…I will put you into your 20’s, that
will put you to voting age a little more just about 21 years of age 22,
23. Every single person then every male adult should be so stabilized as
though you’re not apt to teach, you can sure be a deacon. That
doesn’t sound nice to those who don’t like responsibility does it?
But what I’m trying to tell you here, there’s a maturity that
Brother Branham was not just recommending but requiring.

52min36sec… Now there’s no way that this age shall…maturity and
strong meat which centers in Melchisedec whether people want to take or
not that’s the truth that’s the Bible. Where Paul said in the 5th
chapter I was going to tell you a lot of things but you’re not strong
enough to receive it. And he was speaking on Melchisedec. And I can see
myself why it stumbles people, it stumbles them today because they
don’t even know what Brother Branham’s saying.

So what I’m trying to show you here now is step into the light, stay
in the light and put your growth on in Christ. And be sure that you know
the doctrine. It all starts with my ministry to declare that He is here.
Question is who is here? Why is He here? What is He doing? What are
those roles? All those things are necessary because from that, more and
more truth. 

We’re not asking people to sort of ride herd on anybody, or to be kind
of like critics. But that you know the Word and instantly you’re right
back to that first church age where I read it to you, where John the
revelator received the message from the Lord in the midst of the candle
sticks. He took those false apostles and Brother Branham said they went
to those men and said you’re false. He said my, that was flat. They
said you’re false apostles. What makes you think so? You’re not
teaching what Paul taught. When people don’t teach what Brother
Branham taught then that’s that. So that’s the picture and that’s
the announcements.

1hr 8min 12sec…So we should really be more conscientious in taking
care of ourselves and our children because you’re not going to get by
where brother Branham said the body turns to mush. What about then when
people smoke and take drugs. Do you know that I didn’t know this till
I read an article… a story. I should of known this years ago if I’d
bothered to pursue some studies on crack cocaine. But children born to
women that took crack cocaine when the child was in the period of
gestation… there’s actually holes in the skull where’s there’s
no brain. How many knew that? Anybody read that before? I just read it
in the Readers Digest. You marry into it. I just read that by reading
the story of a black school teacher that was fabulous and did a
tremendous job with the kids and it entered her school and was doing the
greatest damage…????. And she didn’t know why the children were
acting the way they were. Now what you’re looking at then you’re
looking at generations of kids and their wondering where crime and all
these things are coming from. I can tell you right now and it’s in the
black society which is terrible. It’s in the white society but more in
the black because their driven to greater desperation that whites
because of the way their treated. And legislation can never change a
person’s heart. It’s got to be done by God for the love of God
therefore for humanity.

But you can see now why criminality has risen to such proportion, such
violence, and so horrible. See there’s nothing there. Years ago you
say ‘hey there’s nothing up there’. I got news for you, that’s
the truth… there’s holes. You say you got holes in your
head…ah-ha…it’s come to pass. So I just want to let you know some
of these things so kind of keep you abreast of what I stumble across and
what I see. 

1hr 19min 55sec…If you were given everything you wanted even though
you may feel you got scripture for it and you get one of these little
promise boxes…that’s the most ridiculous thing in the world is to
take a scripture out of context and say this is mine, this is mine, this
is mine then you start squealing to God. I got news for you. If you’re
one of those people that gets those quick answers, I don’t believe
you’re a child of God. I really don’t, because even the son of God
got character by suffering, learned obedience. 

1hr 24min…We should before we get too old and I’m getting that way
myself…we should think of serving the Lord and dwelling upon His Word.
As we so many times looked up the scripture that said that…the
Psalmist said thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin
against thee. And may the words of my mouth and the mediation of my
heart be continually the word. And so we’ve got a vocation at this end
time here. It’s not an avocation it’s live, die, sink or swim. An
avocation is not live die sink or swim; it’s more or less peripheral
play around the edges. This is the message you don’t play around the
edges. This is a message you don’t play with period. The one major
problem today is the lack of sincerity. That’s the only thing that is
our problem. We know the Word ,we stand on vindication, we understand
it. Brother Branham himself was worried about the sincerity and the
reverence and he’s right you know he’s right.

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